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Michelle and Barack Obama may seem like they have an ideal marriage and that’s exactly why she’s now opening up — in an exclusive at-home interview with PEOPLE — about the time the former first couple sought help from a marriage counselor.

“Because we’re role models, it’s important for us to be honest and say, if you’re in a marriage and there are times you want to leave, that’s normal — because I felt that way,” the former first lady, 54, says in the interview about her book, Becoming, out Nov. 13.